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Plant care: leaf miners, tussock caterpillars, ants, fleas, tiny gold dot bugs
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abelani
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Dear all,

I'm looking for suggestions and advise, on how to protect my plants from the following
1) leaf miners
2) tussock caterpillars
3) fleas / spiders - im not sure of their names
4) tiny golden colored bugs especially on my greens - again, I'm not sure of their name
I would appreciate natural remedies and solutions.
Thanks! Archana

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Hai,archana please apply 3%neem oil solution to aphids(golden colored bugs).2}4 ml of neem oil+4 ml of punga ennai(pongamia oil)+5 ml of liquid soap to 1 litre of water is very effective for caterpillars &green worms.3}For ants spray vinegar +water at 80:20 on ants.using turmeric powder over ants is also a natural way.Pour hot water to ants pits.Soak tobacco+water for over night filter&spray over ants.Happy organic gardening.Cool 

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Dear Raghu,

Thanks for the information.

But please explain. I was thinking of just using the neem oil, liquid soap & water mix for all problems.

1. As per your recommendation, how are you to use these solutions individually & at what duration

2. where do you get punga ennai?

Also, I recently purchased neem cake. It came as solid broken small blocks, not really powdery. 

Please can you tell me what is neem cake used for exactly, and how do you use it?

Thanks

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Hai Archana(1) If the infection to the plants is very high neem+punga ennai can be sprayed twice weakly if infection is low it can be sprayed once in a weak.This combination also induces good flowering &good taste to vegetables.(2)Punga ennai is available at all pooja material selling stores.(3)Please always buy  fresh neem cake because it only contains high content of azadirachtin which is very effective to pests.(4)Neem cake can applied to soil surface to control white &wire worms which damages root system of plants&also it is rich in nitrogen&also gives to  plants high resistance to pests.Happy organic gardening.

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Thanks for the excellent response and solutions Raghu.

Archana,

When you add neem cake to the soil, just work it in so that the top is not covered with neem cake alone. This causes lot of mold/fungus to form.
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Hi

My experiments with neem oil and soap , in my terrace, couldnot save my snake gourd leaves. Today shopkeeper suggested Godrej "Achook". Is it really organic? safe to spray in the terrace?. Claims it prevents many  pests!

 

with regards

 

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hi,

 

Achook is a azadirachtin based product. It is neem based and hence is not toxic. You can try it out.

 

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Hi,

Thanks gg

I will try it out, and post the results

Hameed

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Dear Raghu,

& other members

 

Hi I posted few months ago w.r.t., the bugs that were attacking my garden.

I have tried the neem oil & washing machine soap powder method. But this has completely failed. My entire garden is been attacked by these creatures and looks like I have to start all over again. 

Can someone please suggest what I can do in this kind of situation, as the neem oil mix seems to have no effect.

These are some of my observations

1) All my leaves are been eaten, the most visible culprit are the caterpillars. They also seem to be leaving this black stuff on the plants.

2) There are these huge numbers of bugs in my soil, that look like a cleaner & thinner housefly. They have even come into my seedling trays.

3) There are red ants, there are always near these numbers of tiny black bugs.

 

I really need your advise here on 

1) What happens my soil (cocopeat, vermiculite & compost mix), is there a method of treating it to become useful again, or will I need to throw it all out? 

2) Will I need to uproot all my plants?

Awaiting your response 
I have images but I'm not sure how to post them
Warm regards,
Archana 
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abelani said:

Dear Raghu,

& other members

 

Hi I posted few months ago w.r.t., the bugs that were attacking my garden.

I have tried the neem oil & washing machine soap powder method. But this has completely failed. My entire garden is been attacked by these creatures and looks like I have to start all over again. 

Can someone please suggest what I can do in this kind of situation, as the neem oil mix seems to have no effect.

These are some of my observations

1) All my leaves are been eaten, the most visible culprit are the caterpillars. They also seem to be leaving this black stuff on the plants.

2) There are these huge numbers of bugs in my soil, that look like a cleaner & thinner housefly. They have even come into my seedling trays.

3) There are red ants, there are always near these numbers of tiny black bugs.

 

I really need your advise here on 

1) What happens my soil (cocopeat, vermiculite & compost mix), is there a method of treating it to become useful again, or will I need to throw it all out? 

2) Will I need to uproot all my plants?

Awaiting your response 
I have images but I'm not sure how to post them
Warm regards,
Archana 
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Hai,Archana Please tell me varieties of plants you have planted.Also tell me how you applied the neem solution?You also told  bugs in your soil,please define the creature once again clearly. In which plant does the black tiny bugs found?

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Dear Raghu,

Neem oil application:
I pour 1 cap of neem oil in water, diluted with 1 spoon ( or little more) washing powder soap. I mix the solution. The water is a bit more than 1 liter or 2. The solution is mixed in a bucket. I then spray it all over plants, till it's dripping off the leaves.

The plants I grow are
1) brinjal
2) corn
3) long beans
4) chillies - no chillies have come yet ( planted more 3 months ago)
5) capsicum - only 1 came
6) carrots
7) cherry tomatoes
8) peas - but now all the leaves have become brown
9) sunflowers
10) marigold
11) dahlia
12) spinach, methi, coriander, turnips, beet roots - all my new crop planting have not grown at all. The 1st harvest was great.
13) lettuce
14) cabbage
15) patotoe

All these plants except for the corn, has been eaten. There is not 1 leaf without a bite.

The bugs - please if you could tell me how I can post images, then it's much easier to explain.
The soil bugs - are like very thin houseflies, they are crawling all over the soil, and even fly around. They have now even come into my seedling trays, kept in a totally different area on my terrace. I growing cabbage seedling, but they have died.
The other ones are caterpillars - but really long, fat ones. They are black / grey colors. I'm not sure if these are the only ones eating away my leaves. For example, in my potatoe plants I found over 30 caterpillars.
The red ants, they have attacked my long beans plant. So I'll see like patches of these black tiny bugs. If you squish them, they bleed ( like mosquitoes)
I have seen very few aphids, spiders, and other insects like moths.

I hope this is sufficient information.

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Hai,Archana 1st you should hand pick the caterpillars 

&eggs&kill them.Please apply neem solution as prescribed

by me correctly.Do not mix washing soap powder.Please ask

for soap oil it will available at all hardware&house care

shops it is very mild.Chilies&beans should prefer good sunlight

for better yield. Apply panchagvya 3% solution for peas&

chili,brinjals,long beans,marigolds.You can get remarkable

result.thank you.Cool

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Hi Archana,

 

For posting the pictures, go to picasaweb.google.com and post your pictures over there and put the link to the pictures over here. Make sure you share it with people with link.

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raghu said:

Hai,archana please apply 3%neem oil solution to aphids(golden colored bugs).2}4 ml of neem oil+4 ml of punga ennai(pongamia oil)+5 ml of liquid soap to 1 litre of water is very effective for caterpillars &green worms.3}For ants spray vinegar +water at 80:20 on ants.using turmeric powder over ants is also a natural way.Pour hot water to ants pits.Soak tobacco+water for over night filter&spray over ants.Happy organic gardening.Cool 

Thanks Raghu and GG. My beans finally survived the aphid attacks  and started fruiting

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KnK2fwo70h3S87zLTcperLuXoGq8PZ80NZ0JmHVFZ4I?feat=directlink

Caterpillar on gourds and the one  that  curls the leaves in okra are  still there. I hand pick them.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/49f9L4PSE_qPK4BAO1pUkruXoGq8PZ80NZ0JmHVFZ4I?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ex8NjMLASV1sco3ZPQ7RLbuXoGq8PZ80NZ0JmHVFZ4I?feat=directlink

Baking soda is effective?

The new visitor is friend or foe?

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CnbNg6C0YJi7KpuvYPVlqruXoGq8PZ80NZ0JmHVFZ4I?feat=directlink

 

Waiting for yur comments

 

Hameed

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Hai,drhameed please apply neem+punga oil as prescribed

 by me above weekly twice,it is enough.Caterpillars on

gourds&okra can be effectively controlled by hand picking.

Apply panchagvya 3%solution to your pots at 10 days

interval.Please remove the weeds in the okra pots it will

also increase the yield.What is the total yield of okra

in single pot?Your okra size&colour is very nice.

The new visitor photo is not clear post new one.thanks. 

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Dear Raghu

Thanks for the comments. Okra yield is only 10 per plant. I put seeds regularly to replace those  plants that stops fruiting. The long beans yield is very good.

Regarding the pest control i am strictly following  your advice. Since cow dung and other organic manures are not readily available here ( city area)  I am using19:19:19weekly with 1 tsp per 2 liters. Can i combine this with pongamia vep solution? Some manufacturers suggest  mixing of pesticides with fertilizer foliar spray!

 

regards

 

Hameed

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As far as I know, Neem Oil + Soap solution is handy against leaf miners and white flees. But not a good fix against Caterpillars or aphids. If you see Leaf miners, pluck those leaves destroy them. Apply neem oil soap solution or place some yellow boards with oil applied. 

So I'll see like patches of these black tiny bugs. If you squish them, they bleed ( like mosquitoes)
I have seen very few aphids, spiders, and other insects like moths.

What I have learned from my limited experience is, you don't really need to be panic at the very sight of any insect. Continuous observations will teach us many surprising facts. I have never found any issues with red ants, instead they are helping me to locate Aphids and Cow bugs. Red ants never attack your plants or steal your yields as far as I know. I hand pick and kill those cow bugs and use tobacco + soap solution against aphids. Spray it hard on the aphids and your plants will be safe. The only time you need to stay away from ants are at the time you sow edible seeds - e.g. amaranthus. Also invite some lady bugs to your garden and they will control aphids by eating them.

 

Do some research on helpful insects and you will be amazed to see who all are in your friends list. Hope my 2 cents help.

 

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Hi All,

Can anyone englightedn me with this ratio thingy..1:1:1 or 19:19:19...I  know its a ratio of three chemical elements..guess phosoporus , nitrogen and potassium? where do I get it in bangalore in what form, so I buy it loose or branded and how much do I pay for them and how do I use them?

 

Currently  I am using pots +soil and not having a good time....I buy manure from GKVK at 5 bucks a kilo...but not very regular in using them.  I did try buying urea at 15 bucks a kilo at KR market..but not really sure how help it is ..hence any detailed explanation and where to find, buy and use them will be greatly helpful

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Navaneeth said:

As far as I know, Neem Oil + Soap solution is handy against leaf miners and white flees. But not a good fix against Caterpillars or aphids. If you see Leaf miners, pluck those leaves destroy them. Apply neem oil soap solution or place some yellow boards with oil applied. 

So I'll see like patches of these black tiny bugs. If you squish them, they bleed ( like mosquitoes)
I have seen very few aphids, spiders, and other insects like moths.

What I have learned from my limited experience is, you don't really need to be panic at the very sight of any insect. Continuous observations will teach us many surprising facts. I have never found any issues with red ants, instead they are helping me to locate Aphids and Cow bugs. Red ants never attack your plants or steal your yields as far as I know. I hand pick and kill those cow bugs and use tobacco + soap solution against aphids. Spray it hard on the aphids and your plants will be safe. The only time you need to stay away from ants are at the time you sow edible seeds - e.g. amaranthus. Also invite some lady bugs to your garden and they will control aphids by eating them.

 

Do some research on helpful insects and you will be amazed to see who all are in your friends list. Hope my 2 cents help.

 

Hi Navneeth,

My long beans  was full of  ants  and aphids. One farmer advised me putting some weaver ants (big red ants normally seen in trees). When I placed them in the garden all of them were killed by this honey ants. (many  articles  available in the internet  with  the details of this  "ants -aphid mutual help") . I tried two times and happened the same. Later the neem + punga worked.

regards

 

Hameed

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