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Satish
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February 21, 2011 - 11:21 am
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I planted six lemon seedlings from the IARI last August. The one that grew the slowest started flowering first. However, gradually it lost all the leaves and started drying up. Eventually the buds also dried up. Now even the new shoots dry up soon after emergence. What could be wrong? Out of the other five, the one that grew the fastest now has lots of buds and seems to be doing well. None of the others has any buds till now. What causes so much difference in the growth and fruiting cycle of these trees. I also have an old citrus tree in the house. This is some kind of a cross between lemon and orange! Whatever be its genes, it is again blooming profusely like it does each year. Touch wood because we all love the flavour of its fruit in nimbu paani! I would be grateful for any help regarding the following issues:

1. Like for vegetables, do I have to reduce the ratio of 'N' in the fertilizer used after the flower-buds start appearing. I ask this because along with the buds the plants also produce a lot of new leaves which obviously would increase the requirement of nitrogen. I am simply confused.

2. On some plants there are some kind of aphids. I washed them off with a teepol solution but they seem to be reappearing. Do I have to do something else?

3. What could be the reason for one of the plants gradually drying up even though new shoots seem to be appearing?

4. I have used farmyard manure, NPK, zinc sulphate and magnesium sulphate. Do I need to add some other nutrients?

Thanks in advance for any advice particularly from people who have had similar problems!!

Satish

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greenenthu
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Hi Satish

You can call your namesake, Dr. Satish Mathur. He is a prominent horticulturist and always ready to help. I don't want to call him because i have bothered him no. of times and he is always busy. Don't send him the mail. He is too busy to reply(my experience). But must share his advice with us.

Happyy Gardening

Greenenthu

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mgardener
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Satish,

I would be curious to know what you find out after talking with Dr. Mathur or any such expert. I have some seed grown plants. And would like to know whether I have any hope of having fruits or even blossom at all. Also, if there's any such possibility, how do I care for my plants to make it happen. If you get answer to any of thse questions, do post them here. I will be looking forward to it.

MG

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greenenthu said:

Hi Satish

You can call your namesake, Dr. Satish Mathur. He is a prominent horticulturist and always ready to help. I don't want to call him because i have bothered him no. of times and he is always busy. Don't send him the mail. He is too busy to reply(my experience). But must share his advice with us.

Happyy Gardening

Greenenthu


Hello GreenEnthu,

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond. Good to have you back here after a long time.

I have one request.

It is not advisable to provide someone's contact number over the internet without the person's consent.. Please remember it is not just read by our forum members but 1000s of people every day. Even if 1% of them call him for their queries.. it will be annoying for him.Dont' you agree?

There is a feature called "Private Messaging" in the forum so that you can send such information to others. Please make use of it.

Please do take this in the right sense.

Shortly I will be removing his contact number from this message.

Hope you guys don't hate me for this :P..

 

GG with the moderator hat.

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Hi GG

Thanks for reminding me of this slip from my side. As i am enthu, it happened out of enthusiasm. You are right , i should have taken care of this before writing it. I appreciate your prompt action. 

Greenenthu

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Hello Greenenthu,

Glad you took it in the right sense.

Happy gardening.
GG

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Hi Satish,

To my utter surprise, I saw a cluster of 3-4 flowers hanging near the tip of one of my lemon branches. Under the drip water supply, the plant has understood the onset of summer and has done for the first time ever since it grew. I have grown this plant from seeds casually thrown. Since this plant was swallowing one of my hibiscus plants, I separated it painfully sacrificing some of its roots probably around 8 months ago. Surprisingly, the plant never showed the signs of distress and has blossomed for the first time, albeit in a very limited sense. The flowers are now drying off. There's one bud still there. I am eager to see if they bear a fruit after all. My balcony has lots of bees buzzing around through the day and night. So I am hopeful. And hoping from this summer, if the plant sets into a rhythm, it may be seasonal joy like my lilly.

MG

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March 19, 2011 - 3:53 pm

hi all.

some years back, i grow lemon and oranges from seeds in pot. it produce fruit but very small in size.i dont have those plants now, but grow new one. so what was the problem of small fruit. i did not use any type of npk. does npk increase the size of fruit.?

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geekgardener said:

greenenthu said:

Hi Satish

You can call your namesake, Dr. Satish Mathur. He is a prominent horticulturist and always ready to help. I don't want to call him because i have bothered him no. of times and he is always busy. Don't send him the mail. He is too busy to reply(my experience). But must share his advice with us.

Happyy Gardening

Greenenthu


Hello GreenEnthu,
 

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond. Good to have you back here after a long time.

I have one request.

It is not advisable to provide someone's contact number over the internet without the person's consent.. Please remember it is not just read by our forum members but 1000s of people every day. Even if 1% of them call him for their queries.. it will be annoying for him.Dont' you agree?

There is a feature called "Private Messaging" in the forum so that you can send such information to others. Please make use of it.

Please do take this in the right sense.

Shortly I will be removing his contact number from this message.

Hope you guys don't hate me for this :P..

 

GG with the moderator hat.


Hi GG:

I know curiosity killed the cat but I just could not help asking you: What does the 'P' at the end of the last-but-one line of the quoted message signify ? I have noted this in some of your messages and decided to do something about my ignorance ! Regards

Satish

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Hi mgardener & Amit:

Very bluntly put, if you are looking to harvest fruit from your citrus plants it would be advisable to get some plants grown by stem grafting. If you want to reinvent the wheel, it is a different story ! In this part of the country, citrus trees start blooming in December and reach the peak in March. By May June the plants are normally loaded with fruit and are ready for harvest around August. Last year after the monsoons I planted six lemon seedlings from the IARI. One died for inexplicable reasons. Another is showing signs of impending death. Three are already blooming to a certain extent and are expected to bear some fruit this year itself. One plant is growing well but has shown no signs of flowers so far. I think it might have something to do with the position of the plants in relation to the sun. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I have an old lime tree of unknown descent. More than twenty years old. Each year it 'rains' fruit that is neither the normal lemon nor like sweet lime but is great for nimbu paani ! Here are two pictures of this tree in full bloom this year. Regards.

https://picasaweb.google.com/108184095189913552151/Mar152011?authkey=Gv1sRgCJXBnYXLv9KXBg&feat=directlink

 

Satish

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mgardener
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Satish,

Thanks for your blunt reply. While I am ever patient and not bothered about re-inventing the wheel or otherwise as I love the surprise from nature, I am not shy to follow the right approach any which way, especially if it falls in DIY approach.

So my question is, now that I have a grown up plant that has flowered, if I take a cutting from this plant and graft it from this cut will it give the desired result? Is it a cutting or any other method of graft? Could you pl. elaborate?

I guess you did discuss with Dr. Mathur or someone. I am keen to hear from what you've learnt. If true, it will be great if you could share your learning. Thanks for your help.

MG

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Hi mgardener:

No, I was not able to contact the said Dr.Mathur because GG was quicker than me and had removed his number of ethical reasons. That was understandable. Anyway, as far as I know any plant produced from a graft or stem cutting will inherit all the characteristics and 'properties' of the mother plant. Logically therefore any graft or stem cutting from your 'non-productive' citrus plants will have the same 'character' and be non-productive too. Thanks and regards.

Satish

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Great to see your response. At least it's clear to me now. So I guess if I graft something from a proper fruiting plant it will help. Otherwise, I should trim my expectations if not the plant itself that I have now. So no matter what it is, I am still happy to see flowers on my plant, seasonal or not.

 

MG

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Satish
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And are you not enjoying the fragrance of the flowers? Isn't it just super? You can add a plant for the fruit and let this one live too for the joy it brings! Regards.

Satish

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Yes, fragrance is just amazing. At a time when this one was troubling my hibiscus, I had trimmed some of its branches, They also smelled awesome. Some of the leaves I had thrown into other pots as mulch. They looked slightly soiled but perfectly fresh and healthy after months together. So I casually picked one up and to my surprise, it came out with a root beneath. There was graft just there growing unnoticed below some of these single leaves.

These things in nature never stop me from surprises.

 

Ok, a question on your 20 year old plant in blossom there. Does it have fruits of the size of a lemon, are oragish or reddish inside and taste awesome than a regular lemon in Nimbu-Pani or Sharbat?

 

If all these answers are yes, this may well be the Italian Malta Lemon. My mom has one that's just about 2 ft tall but flowers and fruits profusely. The Sharbat made from it simply so tasty and has nice saffronish shade to it. Thinking about grafting it.

MG

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Hi mgardener:

Thanks a lot from my family and our 20 years old citrus plant for finally locating its 'parentage' and restoring its genetic name!! Your description of its fruit is 100% correct so far. The colour on the outside is green till they ripen to get orangish shades. But we don't leave them on the tree that long! BTW the tree is loaded with small fruits right now and we expect a super yield this year. Regards.

Satish

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Satish,

Sorry I had to remove the Dr Mathur's number. You can always get in touch with greenenthu and ask for that number via private messaging.

Sorry again.
GG

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