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Organic gardening - Bio Inputs & Innoculants
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camaroon123
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August 20, 2011 - 5:32 pm

 Organic farming is no longer about not using chemical fertilizers and pesticides. It as gone to the point of extracting and using beneficial bacteria and fungi to supply nutrients and also to control pests. Today I went to the company from which I get vermicompost. Got 2 bags of vermicompost and inquired about Mycorrhizza which I read from the other thread. I got the following bio inputs though they did not have mycorrhizza

https://picasaweb.google.com/108518627605551359848/20110820BioInputs?authkey=Gv1sRgCKb7jPGnjYSyDQ#5642897620978270658

You can google this stuff, but giving a one-liner for info.

1. Azospirillum - this is nitrogen fixing bacteria for plants other than legumes(beans)

2. pseudomonas fluorescens - Protects the roots from fungi and nematodes

3. Phospobacteria - makes the phosphates available in the soil available for the plants.

4. Rhizobium - This is another nitrogen fixing bacteria

5. Trichoderma viride - A fungus which controls other fungi in soil

I am a little concerned about using bacteria and fungi in the vegetable garden, as we have grown with the notion that bacteria and fungus are 'bad'. 

The above stuff was not that costly and came to nearly Rs400 including another stuff "organic six" which I don't have any idea what they are and not planning on using it anytime soon.

Let me know if anyone has any experience with the above stuff.

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camaroon123
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August 20, 2011 - 8:02 pm

For those who are interested  in this topic, TNAU has a wonderful site about this,

http://agritech.tnau.ac.in/org.....ology.html

The list of bio-fertilizers producers is also present.

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sri
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January 11, 2012 - 7:24 pm

Hi camaroon,

have you tried using these bio-fertilizers in your garden ?

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camaroon123
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January 11, 2012 - 7:41 pm

Yes, all my garden containers are inoculated with these. In addition to the above, I have used Potash mobilizer which has increased the yield. I am routinely consuming the vegetables from my terrace without any side-effects!..

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sri
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January 12, 2012 - 12:58 pm

Great!.. Is potash mobilizer organic?

Can you please guide me on what bio fertilizers you have used and how you have applied them? Thanks in advance.

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camaroon123
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January 12, 2012 - 9:09 pm

All the stuff mentioned above are living mico-organisms like bacteria or fungi which supply nutrients to plants(bio-fertilizers) or protect the plants(bio-protectors). So I believe its organic. Potash mobilizer is a bacteria which will create available K in plant consumable form. For P we have phospobacteria and for N we have nitrogen fixing bacteria.

All the above, I mixed with vermicompost let aside for a night and applied to the containers. This was suggested by the bio company who sold these products. The have "Enriched" vermicompost which is plain vermicompost mixed with all these organisms, I think costs around Rs18 per KG. Its cheaper buying all this in bulk and mixing it ourselves which I did. 

I got the 1KG packets of the organisms very cheap from Rs 25/kg for bio-fertilizers and Rs80/kg for bio-protectors.

I get them from this place,

http://www.manidharmabiotech.c.....lizer.html

Since there has not been much activity here, I have not updated my threads with the yields of the plants. I will update if people are interested.

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sri
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January 12, 2012 - 10:04 pm

Interesting. Even I wanted to use them for my plants. Have few more questions on this.

Is there a ratio that you mix them.?

How frequently do you have to apply them ?

How much should you apply for a container?..

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camaroon123
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January 13, 2012 - 7:50 pm

I used one Kg of all the stuff to 150Kg of vermicompost. I applied about two handfuls per containers. Excessive amounts will not cause harm. However the recommended usage can be seen in the link above. 

Since these are living organisms, they will proliferate in the right conditions or will die. Some of these are "symbiotic" meaning they need the plants to live. They usually live in the root zones and have beneficial relationship with the plants. Unless they are exposed to situations where they may die (like hot summers) I don't think it is necessary to inoculate again and again.

That is why in old adage, they say that lands should not be fallow for long.  

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sri
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January 14, 2012 - 3:49 pm

Thanks a ton for the information. I called up the mani dharma biotech, to see if their products are available elsewhere. They said, if I can come to chennai, I can get it.  Lets see, if I can source it elsewhere.

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sri
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February 2, 2012 - 6:33 pm

Hi Cameroon,

I have finally found a place to buy Azospirilium and phospbacteria. Are these two enough? the guy was suggesting me to use potash fertiliser. But, I am not interested in using some fertilizers. I need some organic potash. Please suggest the name of organic potash.

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camaroon123
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February 2, 2012 - 11:08 pm

Hi Sri, the organism is generally referred to as potash mobilizer,

http://www.manidharmabiotech.c.....-mobilizer

After adding this I can definitely see a difference in the number of flowers and  fruit setting.

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sri
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February 27, 2012 - 10:45 am

Hello All,

Does anybody know where I can get bio-potash mobilizer in bangalore? Thanks in advance.

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February 29, 2012 - 11:10 am

Hi Sri,

 

The horticulture department in Hulimavu has all the bio-fertilizers. You can try there.

 

Thanks

kvs

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sureshmanoharan
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March 9, 2012 - 6:16 pm

Can anyone post information on COCO peat availability in Chennai for good price.

 

Regards,

Suresh Manoharan

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sravi@gg
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March 10, 2012 - 4:19 pm

I use cocopeat and compost as potting material.Can I use these bio fertilizers with cocopeat+compost + vermicompost?Don't have any clue what should I be applying to my plants,and in what ratio.

 

Am keen on buying it form them,if there's any other place inside the city or if we can get it form them in bulk,please include me as well.

 

Thanks,

Sravishta

 

camaroon123 said:

All the stuff mentioned above are living mico-organisms like bacteria or fungi which supply nutrients to plants(bio-fertilizers) or protect the plants(bio-protectors). So I believe its organic. Potash mobilizer is a bacteria which will create available K in plant consumable form. For P we have phospobacteria and for N we have nitrogen fixing bacteria.

All the above, I mixed with vermicompost let aside for a night and applied to the containers. This was suggested by the bio company who sold these products. The have "Enriched" vermicompost which is plain vermicompost mixed with all these organisms, I think costs around Rs18 per KG. Its cheaper buying all this in bulk and mixing it ourselves which I did. 

I got the 1KG packets of the organisms very cheap from Rs 25/kg for bio-fertilizers and Rs80/kg for bio-protectors.

I get them from this place,

http://www.manidharmabiotech.c.....lizer.html

Since there has not been much activity here, I have not updated my threads with the yields of the plants. I will update if people are interested.

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camaroon123
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March 11, 2012 - 10:51 pm

Coco peat was last available in MAC farm manjari in kotturpuram. I am not sure about the price, but it may not be cheap.

Bio-fertilizers convert the nutrients in the soil into plant consumable form. Since there is not much nutrient value in cocopeat, I am not sure if bio-fertilizers would help. 

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cosmos
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March 12, 2012 - 12:12 pm

Hi Camaroon, what are the plants which you are growing currently.  I had read thro the previous years growing of yourself and jeev. Also let me know if carrots can be grown in chennai

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arnprasad
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March 12, 2012 - 3:18 pm

Not sure about Chennai - but in bangalore, the cheapest coco peat I found was at indo american seeds below sapna book house near majestic.  They sell cocopeat with some  nutrients for 150 per 25kg packet..it is slightly moist.  I have seen blocks of cocopeat  - completely dry being sold at 40 bucks a kg..which makes around 4 kilos post addition of water.

 

I have noticed that plants grow very well in cocopeat compared to mud..as it is less prone to diseases..

 

Any idea what kind of nutrients should one mix with Coco peat? I Currently mix 20-30% of organic leaf manure..any better ideas will be appreciated.thx

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March 14, 2012 - 5:30 pm

Hi,

I bought a number of months ago a set of bacterial cultures in liquid form from a company called Tari Biotech.

 

http://www.tarigroup.com/products.html

 

You just have to add these to de-chlorinated water as per recommendation on the package.

The potash culture seems to work well on my banana plants at flowering stage.

You can also add Panchakavya solution to cocopeat.

Infact with some patience we can make Panchakavya at home , I got access to a dairy near my house so was able to collect fresh dung and urine. In about a month, I was able to get a stable Panchakavya solution and I use it extensively in my garden.

 

Best regards,

ramna

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camaroon123
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March 18, 2012 - 10:21 am

@ cosmos - I currently have brinjals, ridge gourd, okra, tomatoes.. most of them are at the end of their life cycle and the current state of the terrace is nothing to brag about. I have not tried carrots, but I am not sure if they will tolerate the hot chennai climate.  Radish does grow really well and had some really good experience with them. It has been only 8 months since I started this, and I am looking whether the platns will survive the upcoming hot summer in the terrace without any shade net. 

 

One general comment is that bio-fertilizers are most suitable for organic farming. If cocopeat is used as the only medium then it is more suitable as a water retention medium for hydrophonics and for which chemical solutions seem to be better suited than organic ones. I don't think bio-fertilizers which are living organisms and chemical fertilizers go well together. Continuous usage of chemicals fertilizers kill the living organisms and there by making the soil fallow. 

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