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Satish
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It is relatively easy to grow plants with beautiful flowers from bulbs or rhizomes that are available in nursery shops. I had some pots with Amarylis. The flowers are really beautiful. The part-time gardener just let each bulb multiply and overcrowd the pot. Now that I have taken up gardening I seperated the bulbs in each pot and planted the spare ones in new pots. Now I have almost a hundred potted Amarylis & because I started running short of pots/sacks, I planted some in the ground. Almost all have already started to sprout! Next season I hope to have my garden blooming with RED Amarylis. Red is in caps because I would like to add some other colours and will be grateful for any advice on sourcing some. Last season I also bought some 'Rajnigandha' bulbs and achieved partial success. While all the bulbs sprouted only 50% produced flowers and only a few had the famous 'Ranigandha' scent. Surely some of our Bangaluru friends can help me achieve better results next time. Also, I would like to know when & how the bulbs should be saved for the next season. Do I take out the bulbs while the foliage is still green? I will appreciate similar information about Lily bulbs. This season I have planted Gladioli bulbs. They are sprouting rather well both in the ground as well as in pots.  Hopefully they bloom well. I know they will because I have your good wishes.Smile

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Is it that easy to grow plants from bulbs? I have some lilly plants which don't seem to bloom. They look very healthy (green and lots of them) but just does not flower. I have removed the bulbs and re-planted them again, but not lucky yet. 

Any tips that would help?

 

- Aarthi

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Satish,

Can you post some photos of your Amarylis? I am curious to see what it is.

Lilly bulbs will multiply and can reallly burst a pot. Mine has started deforming. So I am planning to repot some of them. But I believe, you should do so after the yearly blossom season. Which is Summer for the lilly bulbs. I would prefer to do it potentially at the approach of the monsoons. Otherwise, Lilly is extremely robust. But it could be slow.

My experience with Rajanigandha is not very successful either. Needs to good feed, Overcrowded plants don't do well at all. They would benefit separation any time you feel they are too tight. They are bothered by mealy bugs and aphids. But die and regrow endelessly. I have left my bulbs to their own wish and whim.

On the whole, I agree that bulbed and rhizome plants are robust and perennials at their best.

Aarthi,

How old is your lilly? Where did you purchase and in what condition (as a bulb or a ptted wel-grown plant)? I am not sure on these conditions and details. But my own experience with Lilly is such a rewarding one after a real long wait. I have at times been irregular feeding it. It has shed dried leaves and grown liserable at times; but no matter in what conditions, every bulb sends out one bloom at least and if time permits, two in a summer. None-the-less, due to improper sun-shine in whichever places I have grown this plant and negligence and what not, my lilly never flowered nor multiplied for two years. I had purchased a bulb with one nearly dead leaf in Aug 2005. And I think after I had lost faith that it will ever flower, it sent out bloom after two years of long wait.

I would like to share one more sight I had. I stay in whitefield and on ITPL road in the divider, there are lilly bulbs that are ever so miserable at best. One morning when I was driving this summer of 2010, I spotted a flower stem coming out of the soil in the midst of nothing at all. No leaves, no signs of the surface that some bulb is lying underneath.

In a nutshell, an extremely pleasing and very often surprsing, this plant needs very little care if at all. Once it flowers, it will do so ever so regularly. How it understands that Summer has arrived still baffles me. Mine has bright Red flowers of the size of the palm of a hand if not bigger. Stunning to see 2-3 of them alboom on top of a stem.

 

MG

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mgardener said:

Satish,

Can you post some photos of your Amarylis? I am curious to see what it is.

Lilly bulbs will multiply and can reallly burst a pot. Mine has started deforming. So I am planning to repot some of them. But I believe, you should do so after the yearly blossom season. Which is Summer for the lilly bulbs. I would prefer to do it potentially at the approach of the monsoons. Otherwise, Lilly is extremely robust. But it could be slow.

My experience with Rajanigandha is not very successful either. Needs to good feed, Overcrowded plants don't do well at all. They would benefit separation any time you feel they are too tight. They are bothered by mealy bugs and aphids. But die and regrow endelessly. I have left my bulbs to their own wish and whim.

On the whole, I agree that bulbed and rhizome plants are robust and perennials at their best.

Aarthi,

How old is your lilly? Where did you purchase and in what condition (as a bulb or a ptted wel-grown plant)? I am not sure on these conditions and details. But my own experience with Lilly is such a rewarding one after a real long wait. I have at times been irregular feeding it. It has shed dried leaves and grown liserable at times; but no matter in what conditions, every bulb sends out one bloom at least and if time permits, two in a summer. None-the-less, due to improper sun-shine in whichever places I have grown this plant and negligence and what not, my lilly never flowered nor multiplied for two years. I had purchased a bulb with one nearly dead leaf in Aug 2005. And I think after I had lost faith that it will ever flower, it sent out bloom after two years of long wait.

I would like to share one more sight I had. I stay in whitefield and on ITPL road in the divider, there are lilly bulbs that are ever so miserable at best. One morning when I was driving this summer of 2010, I spotted a flower stem coming out of the soil in the midst of nothing at all. No leaves, no signs of the surface that some bulb is lying underneath.

In a nutshell, an extremely pleasing and very often surprsing, this plant needs very little care if at all. Once it flowers, it will do so ever so regularly. How it understands that Summer has arrived still baffles me. Mine has bright Red flowers of the size of the palm of a hand if not bigger. Stunning to see 2-3 of them alboom on top of a stem.

 

MG


Hi MG:

The flowers you have described at the end of your post as "... bright red flowers the size the size of the palm of a hand..." almost describes the Amarylis I have. Actually for many years we were under the impression that these were Lillies! I discovered only by accident what they really are and am told that many people mistake them to be Lillies. I will surely send you a picture when they bloom next time. But you can look at some pictures on these sites:  http://www.theflowerexpert.com.....ower-1.jpg. I agree with you that the ways of nature are strange. Last September I
planted 12 Rajnigandhas. They sprouted rather quickly and I was
encouraged to get 10 more. The later ones bloomed while not one of the
earlier ones had a flower. Now just as I had almost given up on them,
two of these have bloomed too! May be the rest of them will also not
disappoint. Regards.

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aarthimuralidharan said:

Is it that easy to grow plants from bulbs? I have some lilly plants which don't seem to bloom. They look very healthy (green and lots of them) but just does not flower. I have removed the bulbs and re-planted them again, but not lucky yet. 

Any tips that would help?

 

- Aarthi


Hi aarthi:

All you can do is be patient and hope for the grace of the almighty. They really surprise you. However what I understand is that if you plant the small bulbs that "reproduce" from large ones, they might take a season or two to bloom. I would suggest 'just let them be'! But generally it seems to be very easy to grow plants from bulbs. Thats what I have experienced so far. Lets hope for the best in the future too. I am too new to gardening to give you any tips but I have been adding some superphosphate to the soil around each bulb at planting time and it seems to help. Smile

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mgardener,

 

Thanks for that elaborate reply.

 I bought the lillies 2 years ago from APD, jeevan bhima nagar. After a year, I re-potted the new bulbs that had come.

They occasionally bloom. I find people around saying that lillies come up fast and don't need much care. I use Maxigrow at times, but I don't see any change. 

In other places, I see them bloom always. I think the secret there is a number of them are kept in a row while I have only a few potted in each pot. So, the probability that there will always be a flower is high in the first case and lower in mine 🙂

 

Cheers,

Aarthi

 

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Aarthi,

How old is your lilly? Where did you purchase and in what condition (as a bulb or a ptted wel-grown plant)? I am not sure on these conditions and details. But my own experience with Lilly is such a rewarding one after a real long wait. I have at times been irregular feeding it. It has shed dried leaves and grown liserable at times; but no matter in what conditions, every bulb sends out one bloom at least and if time permits, two in a summer. None-the-less, due to improper sun-shine in whichever places I have grown this plant and negligence and what not, my lilly never flowered nor multiplied for two years. I had purchased a bulb with one nearly dead leaf in Aug 2005. And I think after I had lost faith that it will ever flower, it sent out bloom after two years of long wait.

I would like to share one more sight I had. I stay in whitefield and on ITPL road in the divider, there are lilly bulbs that are ever so miserable at best. One morning when I was driving this summer of 2010, I spotted a flower stem coming out of the soil in the midst of nothing at all. No leaves, no signs of the surface that some bulb is lying underneath.

In a nutshell, an extremely pleasing and very often surprsing, this plant needs very little care if at all. Once it flowers, it will do so ever so regularly. How it understands that Summer has arrived still baffles me. Mine has bright Red flowers of the size of the palm of a hand if not bigger. Stunning to see 2-3 of them alboom on top of a stem.

 

MG


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Yes, hope is the ultimate answer. I will wait. Thank you.

 

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Hi aarthi:
 

All you can do is be patient and hope for the grace of the almighty. They really surprise you. However what I understand is that if you plant the small bulbs that "reproduce" from large ones, they might take a season or two to bloom. I would suggest 'just let them be'! But generally it seems to be very easy to grow plants from bulbs. Thats what I have experienced so far. Lets hope for the best in the future too. I am too new to gardening to give you any tips but I have been adding some superphosphate to the soil around each bulb at planting time and it seems to help. Smile


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Aarthi,

On top everything else, give your lilly a place where it sees some good amount of sun your garden space can offer. And surely, the season is out a couple of months. The earliest my lilly blossoms is by mid to end of Feb, just as the summer starts here in south. So keep your fingers crossed and wait and watch. Don't forget that it blossoms only during summer. Never out of season, so your repotting them might have just helped this year. Who knows!!!!

I forgot to mention that a lilly that my Mom has has never flowered for several years. This year during Divali, I saw this plant and thought for the first time that this plant was near mature and could throw up something this approaching season. So at times, if your plant has not liked it's environs for some reason, it might just be snobbish.

Wish you the best.

MG

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mgardener said:

Aarthi,

On top everything else, give your lilly a place where it sees some good amount of sun your garden space can offer. And surely, the season is out a couple of months. The earliest my lilly blossoms is by mid to end of Feb, just as the summer starts here in south. So keep your fingers crossed and wait and watch. Don't forget that it blossoms only during summer. Never out of season, so your repotting them might have just helped this year. Who knows!!!!

I forgot to mention that a lilly that my Mom has has never flowered for several years. This year during Divali, I saw this plant and thought for the first time that this plant was near mature and could throw up something this approaching season. So at times, if your plant has not liked it's environs for some reason, it might just be snobbish.

Wish you the best.

MG


Hi MG:

Yes, I couldn't agree more with you! Who knows? Aarthi would do well to be patient. She might be in store for a real pleasant surprise. And even if---God forbid!---her Lily plants do not bloom even this summer, we will all wish her well for the summer thereafter! In the meantime please do tell me of any other ornamental plants that one can grow from bulbs. Thanks and best wishes.Smile

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Hi Satish,

When Bulbs and rhizomes is the topic, I can certainly think many varieties of lotus, ginger and lillies. Some so fancy that they are risk to grow at the price they come.

You can also try gerberas. Recently, I had one handsome orange one blooming. I am now watching whether it will throw another stalk of flower. They are generally hardy. But survival rate is low.

Dahlia is another class full of beauties. Risky if you buy bulbs though. They can rot very easily without ever sending shoots out. So better buy a potted healthy plant.

I guess that's all I can think of. Do consider orchids if you fancy them. Many of them come with pseudo-bulbs and canes. My experience is limited though.

 

MG

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mgardener said:

Hi Satish,

When Bulbs and rhizomes is the topic, I can certainly think many varieties of lotus, ginger and lillies. Some so fancy that they are risk to grow at the price they come.

You can also try gerberas. Recently, I had one handsome orange one blooming. I am now watching whether it will throw another stalk of flower. They are generally hardy. But survival rate is low.

Dahlia is another class full of beauties. Risky if you buy bulbs though. They can rot very easily without ever sending shoots out. So better buy a potted healthy plant.

I guess that's all I can think of. Do consider orchids if you fancy them. Many of them come with pseudo-bulbs and canes. My experience is limited though.

 

MG


Hi MG:

Didn't know that Gerberas are grown from bulbs. Would love to grow them if you guide me a little. Please also provide a little more info regarding lotus and ginger. Dahlias are beautiful but I prefer the ones grown from seeds for their beauty and fresh vibrant colours. Like the wild ones. I have sown seeds this season and the germination is pretty encouraging. Will let you know about the final results! Regards.

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Hi,

I have a nice Gerbera that has grown from it's false stem that grows underground. It also gave a flower within about 3 months. It's a big orange variety you buy at the florists. I had never imagined it will be such a success in my pot.

But three other bulbous stems I purchased from another vendor on the same day, did not succeed to grow at all. I have stopped watering them to protect them from rotting away. I will try to grow them again after some time. Look for robust root system and the false stem that does not show fungus and looks healthy. But they are still a little unpredictable. But delightful if successful.

Lotus can be potted in a largish pond with some soil at the bottom in which the bulbs have to be put. Adding some cow dung or compost may be a good idea. It's a low maintenance plant that needs very little maintenance if at all. Needs good sunshine at least a part of the day. Do not forget to add some Guppies to the pond. They do a great job keeping the water clean.

As for ginger class, there are some exotic lilly type or stalky type flowering varieties. They are not commonly found everywhere. And my experience with a 50rs bulb was pathetic. So don't have much experience on this type of plants. I had grown our regular ginger once and it did send beautiful yellow, red flowering stem. But since then they rot away and I haven't tried it since last 3 yrs or so.

MG

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Thanks a lot MG for being so helpful. Could you please give a few details about how the ordinary edible ginger is planted. Regards.

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Just take bulb of ginger from what you buy from vender. Sow it just below the soil. If you want, you can do so in a pot so that its growth in "contained" or restrained. It will throw flower stem though very sparingly. Ultimately, it's not grown fort hat purpose. When the bulb multiplies, you can pluck out some and sow the rest back again.

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mgardener said:

Just take bulb of ginger from what you buy from vender. Sow it just below the soil. If you want, you can do so in a pot so that its growth in "contained" or restrained. It will throw flower stem though very sparingly. Ultimately, it's not grown fort hat purpose. When the bulb multiplies, you can pluck out some and sow the rest back again.

MG


Hi MG:

Thank you very much for the instructions for sowing ginger. Any particular time of year/climate to start? Thanks & regards

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Hi everyone:

I guess I counted my chicks before they hatched!! When the Gladioli bulbs sprouted so easily and quickly I really thought growing plants/flowers from bulbs was very simple & easy. As far as growing the plant  is concerned I was not really wrong. The plants have grown rather quickly to stand almost 3' tall. But where are the flowers? No sign even of the so-called flower stalk. What can I do to expedite the appearance of flowers? Will be grateful for your experience/idea.

Satish

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Hi Satish

 

The story that I have heard about Bulbs available in Delhi is that the ones available here are those that have bloomed in the hills in Summers  and thanks to the  middlemen, they are  brought to Delhi for sale in winters.  As a result they do not get the necessary rest (dormant) period they need to bloom again, which explains why they grow well but fail to bloom in the first year.  Once they go dormant for a while,  they readily bloom the second year of planting.  So your glad might also bloom next year if not now.  But keep feeding them every 15 days to help the plant store food for the next season. Hope this helps.

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Hi Revathi:

I can only hope that the 'story' you have heard is just that! However, if it were to come true, do I leave the 'bulbs' in the ground? Actually, that also brings me to the question about what to do with 'Rajnigandha' and Lily bulbs after blooming? How & when does one save them for the next season? Regards

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Hi everyone:

I planted Rajnigandha for the first time this year. While virtually all have bloomed sooner or later, only a few had the famous scent of this flower. Is there any way one can differentiate the bulbs of the scented variety from the other bulbs? Next year I would like to use bulbs only of the scented variety. Can someone from Bangalore help me? After all Bangalore is considered the home of these flowers! I will be very grateful for any help in this regard. Do you know a good and reliable source for these bulbs?

Satish

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Satish said:

Hi Revathi:

I can only hope that the 'story' you have heard is just that! However, if it were to come true, do I leave the 'bulbs' in the ground? Actually, that also brings me to the question about what to do with 'Rajnigandha' and Lily bulbs after blooming? How & when does one save them for the next season? Regards

Satish

Hi Satish

Bulbs are allowed to remain in their place until the leaves turn yellow which is a sign that they can be dug up and stored until the next year.  After you dig them up, wash them well  and dip them in 2% fungicide which could be bavastin or Kaptan.  Then air dry the bulbs in shade until the moisture completely evaporates and store them wrapped in newspaper in a dark cool place.  Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, since I learnt this procedure from a friend and have no experience saving bulbs.!!

I had amaryllis lily and football lily for the last 4 years. I always let them remain in the pot - never dug them up. But I used to  stopp watering from Nov. to early Feb. in their dormancy.  Started watering in mid Feb. and they started growing again.  Now I have given them away as I needed the pots for my tomato plants. No experience with the other bulbs.  Hope this helps.

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